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    I was starting to do my warm ups this morning, sketching out some characters and such as usual to get me rolling. But I decided to check the thread to see some entries, see if I got any feedback ( only my second comp on this forum).

    But to my surprise I see questions about if I've manipulated a photo. I dont mean to be a grump but from drawing, painting etc my whole life it seems a little offensive to ask if I made a photo montage.

    I like to work fast to knock out concepts before I paint anything. I rough in shapes sketchbook pro,move the drawing to photoshop and apply the cutout and watercolor filters to my under drawing. I copy and paste areas from the drawing and then add a line pass. Its a way I can concept quickly before I decide on a final frame for painting.

    I'll be sure to update EVERY step of my illustrations in future post.
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    Vaejoun, the taller the hall is, the more the reflected light will fill up the space, but that depends on where you have your light set up!

    Sleepfight, My opoligies, its just that its fricking good and it looked like photos put together, therefore I/we were wondering and nicely asked
    keep it up like that its stunning!

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      @Sleepfight: Sorry, wasnt meant in any offensive way if that how it felt to you. I was just curious, because it really looks like a filtered photo. (At least I was right on the filter as you said ^^) I would like to see this piece without the filters added.

      Keep it up, looking for more.
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      I was starting to do my warm ups this morning, sketching out some characters and such as usual to get me rolling. But I decided to check the thread to see some entries, see if I got any feedback ( only my second comp on this forum).

      But to my surprise I see questions about if I've manipulated a photo. I dont mean to be a grump but from drawing, painting etc my whole life it seems a little offensive to ask if I made a photo montage.

      I like to work fast to knock out concepts before I paint anything. I rough in shapes sketchbook pro,move the drawing to photoshop and apply the cutout and watercolor filters to my under drawing. I copy and paste areas from the drawing and then add a line pass. Its a way I can concept quickly before I decide on a final frame for painting.

      I'll be sure to update EVERY step of my illustrations in future post.
      Wow you mean ...it's not a 3D piece with a filter on top of it? i mean you really draw it ? I don't want to sound like a prick but to me it really looks like a 3D piece with few stroke on it and a filter , plus seeing your portfolio with mainly 3D on it ... I wonder.

      And seriously if i could achieve a 3d feel like that by painting , i would definitely not put a a filter that screw up all the detaile ... i still think it's 3D with quick paint-over unless proved wrong ( i wish)

      here is a quick 3d model i had with a accented edge filter on it .... :/ look similar .


      Edit: The 3d is very good nonetheless , but still it's a 2d challenge here :/

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      Sleepfight, Asahi has a very good point and the image he showed does look alot like yours, could you kindly show us your sketch and stages please?

      thanks.

      Anyone else, join the ride guys, don't miss out oportunity to grow and learn we're here to help, so don't be shy!
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      Vaejoun> i prefer your quick sketch before , the camera was lower > meaning more immersive and dynamic . For the sadows parts u can go with more staturated colors too the light bouncing on the bright wall and groung could give some nice color variation imo
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        @asashi superdry: That happens often, I make a nice sketch and while working it out I go further and further away until I reach I ppoint where I just redo it to some point where it is closer to the sketch again.

        Here a step I liked... until I saw a face in there. (It cant be unseen) ^^°


        And after I went closer to the initial sketch again.
        I think its taking shape, only the light from the door is giving me headache.

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          Hey there!

          Great things here, I am really impressed.
          At the moment I just think about joining this competition.
          Seems to be really fun!

          Never did environment before and usually I do not use Photoshop (I prefer ink) - but hey! Learn what you don't know, mh?

          But before I show you one of my first sketches I have some basic questions for you.

          - What kind of brush do you use?
          - Is there any trick for "rendering" the thing? I mean the details and stuff
          - How big is your image?
          - How do you create this kinda soft contrast?

          Thanks a lot!

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            @Muun:
            - What kind of brush do you use?
            I like some chalk or oil like brushes but there are enough guys that prefer a common round, ellypitical or even squared brush. It really comes down to which you like.

            - Is there any trick for "rendering" the thing? I mean the details and stuff
            Dont knwo if I get what you want to know... how about this:
            Work from big to small, get the overall values and shapes right before adding any detail (like in my last post, there are no details in there yet)

            - How big is your image?
            I would say at least 2000 pix on the long side on 150 dpi. In the thumbnail and sketching phase it might as well be smaller and later sized up.

            - How do you create this kinda soft contrast?
            Soft contrast? Do you mean soft edges betwenn forms? Or just that two colors dont differ much (like on a greyish day or in a very dark surrounding)

            Hope it helps. Just start drawing/ painting, you will get a feedback in any case.
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            Vaejoun > if i had to choose betwenn the 2 i' would say tge second , thought i feel your sketch really awsome , you should start from it .
            What u could try is with a quick brightness contrast try to push all the darker gray close to a 50% grey , then with an overlay layer on top put quick values and work from here. Then you would keep the sketch intact and your compo too. After it's all a matter to paint normally on a normal laye ron top !

            But yeah your sktech was definitely way over those ones.

            For now...

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            Here's some sucky thumbs I did i dont know will i make it in time tho
            I think i will go with top right one

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            and heres some of reference I used From my favourite artist Levi Hopkins, I allso used Starcraft2 artbook

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              @Asahi: Looking at your other stuff, I bet this is gonna be a goldpiece when its finnished. Looks alreads really sweet. Great textures and details. Maybe make the wood part with the 2 shield at the right a little darker/ lower in contrast, right now its a little distracting.

              @Cursed: Give it a try and see what you can do in such a short time.

              Again, I spent way too much time on this one, at least I found a new interesting way to bring color into a b/w sketch (I hope overlay is the right word , I only have the german PS ^^) After some rendering, smudging and stuff, this is where I am right now.

              Feels promising.
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              Here's some color comps i have done, i'm liking both of the top ones they have nice feeling to them.
              can't decide..

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              Vaejoun> yeaaah that cool i think it gonne looks very good , theoverlay mode works well but e carefull it tend to desaturate a bit the colors , either u paint on top of it or u resaturate your piece wit level and stuff

              Cursed>Ithink the left one was the best actually it really shows depth ... more than the one u choosed
              keep on

              here is my final i think some tweaks here and there

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              @asahi-superdry- Mm you are right, i think i chose mine for wrong reasons, i'll get to work on that right one right away!
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