[kovah]

Please familiarise yourself with these new rules on what is acceptable in the Drawing Jam Activities.









Thanks
~CGHub Team

[Cookiedough]

Thanks for this post. It'll help a lot of us artists to stretch our own capabilities and save problems that might be luring in the future.

[Izene]

Thanks for this post!
I got a question,though. What if you are in scenario 1 but you didn't take the photo,but got it from the web?Is it still a "proper photo reference"?

[kovah]

Originally Posted by Izene

Thanks for this post!
I got a question,though. What if you are in scenario 1 but you didn't take the photo,but got it from the web?Is it still a "proper photo reference"?

Most photos from 'the web' belong to someone, you can avoid any problems by firstly only referencing photos that are definitely STOCK images - photos that are specifically taken to be used as reference or in photomanips etc.. I find devianart quite good for that (If you search lion stock stock images of lions come up) - do make sure you read the photographers rules though as some don't want you to post off site or use their images in certain ways.

Here in drawing jams (and i reckon the other activities) we would rather you used stock images rather than say something you found on google images for your reference should you need it and including a link to where you got it from is always a good idea.

[axelalonso]

Great example of rules on achieving art and helping your self better to become the real artist we all need to get inside of us! I hope more artist could see this facts to help more our community!

[wahay]

I appreciate the crystal clear guidelines, but I'd like to take this moment to remind people that tracing does have a time and place. Donato Giancola makes a habit of tracing references often (as seen in his demos and presentations), and Gregory Manchess said he'd like to teach an entire course on tracing from references effectively, be it the use of tracing paper or an overhead projector (as heard in his Sidebar Podcast interview).

No, said artists hardly trace an image entirely from the photograph (that wouldn't be applicable for most of the sketch challenges anyway), but it's enough that I thought I'd get it down in writing anyway.

[jakeblakeley]

What is your take on texture overlays? Most of the textures I take on my own but for something like rocks I will usually just use a rocky texture then greyscale shading underneath. Is this against the rules?

[kovah]

Originally Posted by jakeblakeley

What is your take on texture overlays? Most of the textures I take on my own but for something like rocks I will usually just use a rocky texture then greyscale shading underneath. Is this against the rules?

As most texture overlays are made unrecognisable from the original image they official word is that you may use them in the Drawing Jams, try to use your own photos were possible however, if not try and use them from an open source site or credit sources where possible.

[Jae1234]

Originally Posted by kovah

Most photos from 'the web' belong to someone, you can avoid any problems by firstly only referencing photos that are definitely STOCK images - photos that are specifically taken to be used as reference or in photomanips etc.. I find devianart quite good for that (If you search lion stock stock images of lions come up) - do make sure you read the photographers rules though as some don't want you to post off site or use their images in certain ways.

Here in drawing jams (and i reckon the other activities) we would rather you used stock images rather than say something you found on google images for your reference should you need it and including a link to where you got it from is always a good idea.

So if the photo is a stock image, and you give credit to the photographer, how closely can you use the image. In other words, even though it's not creative or artistic, can you basically copy the original stock image?

[arttorney]

Out of curiosity, why copy something that is not artistic and not creative?

[Jae1234]

Well, I wouldn't, but sometimes there might be only one or two references available for certain rare images. Even then, I would stay away from straight up copying the reference. And sometimes people copy the reference and add something to it, in which case I dunno if it is okay or not. I just wanted to know how much of the stock image I could use so that I would know in the future.

[kovah]

Originally Posted by Jae1234

Well, I wouldn't, but sometimes there might be only one or two references available for certain rare images. Even then, I would stay away from straight up copying the reference. And sometimes people copy the reference and add something to it, in which case I dunno if it is okay or not. I just wanted to know how much of the stock image I could use so that I would know in the future.

The whole point of reference is to REFERENCE it

You may reference a stock image or several if you rather and add your own changes. You may not copy, trace or paint over the stock image. The pictures in the first post should explain this to you

[kovah]

Originally Posted by SwissReplicaWa

hanks for this post!
I got a question,though. What if you are in scenario 1 but you didn't take the photo,but got it from the web?Is it still a "proper photo reference"?

It depends what it is and how much you intend to reference from it, a photo you found via google images is not a good thing as its unlikely you will be able to credit the photographer.

If you found it on an offical stock website and give full credit somewhere with your post it would be acceptable. Bear in mind though that you should not be referencing an entire picture like the example above.

[jade30]

Most photos from 'the web' belong to someone, you can avoid any problems by firstly only referencing photos that are definitely STOCK images - photos that are specifically taken to be used as reference or in photomanips etc.. I find devianart quite good for that (If you search lion stock stock images of lions come up) - do make sure you read the photographers rules though as some don't want you to post off site or use their images in certain ways.

Here in drawing jams (and i reckon the other activities) we would rather you used stock images rather than say something you found on google images for your reference should you need it and including a link to where you got it from is always a good idea.

[jade30]

It depends what it is and how much you intend to reference from it, a photo you found via google images jade is not a good thing as its unlikely you will be able to credit the photographer.

If you found it on an offical stock website and give full credit somewhere with your post it would be acceptable. Bear in mind though that you should not be referencing an entire picture like the example above.