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09-27-2009, 02:18 PM
thanks a lot guys for your help,i think i will wait until i get enaugh money and buy a 15" Macbook pro.
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02-21-2010, 01:41 AM
I was a PC guy for over 10years and finally had enough of the nonsense-A buddy of mine got a Mac and couldn't stop talking about it...so when my PC decided to buzz loudly whenever I used Pshop I bit the bullet and got a 24inch iMac...I'll never go back to PC
as an artist you will likely appreciate the design aesthetic of Apple and the 'personality' of a Mac...I don't mean to sound like one of those Mac guys but whatever!
I use my iMac with my Cintiq and the screen of the Mac is sooo much brighter and better imo. I hope Wacom and Mac get together on the next Cintiq's!
anyways good choice!
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10-06-2010, 07:27 AM
Have to agree with ardescoere. I've worked in IT, particularly sales and then logistics at a retail store, so I have knowledge of what gets returned/repaired and other issues.
Laptops you can't avoid dealing with manufacturers, but when it comes to desktops, I prefer to build them myself. Every laptop I've owned though has had it's issue. Some of it I guess is to be expected if you're buying what is probably closer to lower/midrange ($800-$900 or less) as they have to deal with what is within budget while trying to follow the trend of slimmer/slammer laptop.
I've been through several gateway laptops (one was owned by someone else in our household then I owned one). The screen and the power the hardware could offer was fine, but they had so many problems with components and the laptop itself not resistant to wear and tear. The last one I had was a lemon and got replaced through my insurance plan after so many repairs and that's how I ended up with HP.
When dual core AMD first came out for HP, they had severe problems with overheating and even safety concerns there to the extent they recalled the first model they gave us. This HP is years after that fact, but it also has issues with overheating I come to know. Fact is, AMD runs hotter than Intel, and if you are using a better than average GPU (which is what I am using, but it's not high end), one of your major concerns will be heat...
When you are buying a new laptop, be sure to make note of where the vents are placed, how many they are, if they would be easy to obstruct. Overheating prevention/Cooling is very important for graphics/CPU intensive stuff as to not kill components overtime In the case of my HP and a lot of their more recent ones (my laptop isn't that old, it's a dv5-1125nr BTW), the vent is in the back of the laptop, except there is one problem... that back end is beveled so it EASILY is obstructed by blankets and such. This isn't much of a problem as you are SUPPOSED to use the laptop on a flat surface and this really is a must anyway with laptops, especially if you are using a lot of processing power, like painting in photoshop
I didn't pay much mind to it, but I noticed every once in a while painting in PS with my intuos3, I would be chugging along and suddenly everything would shut down (programs start closing and such) without asking me to save. I figured out later it was overheating when it hit that maximum temp of 100C. When I picked it up one time off the floor by my TV, it was scorching hot
The thing is, this laptop idles at 70-80C which is high for idle... 59C if the laptop is not charging (battery unplugged). Once I start painting, it starts cooking, gets up to 90C, sometimes 95C. It was getting into 98C-100C, sometimes 90C just sitting mostly on idle before I cleaned it and unplugged the battery. 100C is the operating temperature (Almost 220F) of the processor, but realistically, anything near that is constantly is going to start killing components like video cards which also should have it's own limits. Anyway, the vents are not well designed and it could also be that there is not enough processor goo and it's not sealed very well with the heat sink at manufacturing time... but to fix that, I'd have to tear apart the laptop. Thank God for insurance!
Secondly, I would recommend before you buy any laptop, realize it is not just one whole unit, you are buying the components. It really should not be any different than desktop shopping. A lot more care goes into this, because you will not be replacing most of the components and what is designed for it is all you can get. So do the research on the motherboard as well, find out if there are any defects or people have had issues.. it doesn't help if the issue happens overtime, but a lot of problems can crop up early and usually that motherboard has been in a few models before yours, so if there are problems you will find them. My old desktop computer motherboard had a PCI-express defect that was so specific, it was unmistakable. The PCI-express slot would stop working and the built in VGA lost red out of the RGB. Had I done some googling, probably would've found that out, but it lasted 3 years before I built this one.
Really, Mac vs. PC, it comes down to preference. I think if you're savvy enough, go for PC, do your research, learn a lot about your machine and it will work for you. But insurance plans, I recommend anyway... especially if you drop it or spill something on it. Mac is also pretty expensive, often times hardware and accessories is proprietary with it, but with PC you have more flexibility.
I know also with my HP, my battery could be overheating although it's not on the list. Heat killed my battery overtime and it needs to be replaced but haven't had time to place order with my insurance. As far as good laptop care, if you leave your laptop on the plug all the time, it is bad for it and the battery anyway. The battery becomes abnormally hot from overheating and the AC adapter will start toasting too, and for most laptops this part of the computer sits on the processor which increases your heat... too much heat kills components. This is just stuff any laptop owner should be aware of. Sorry if this TL;DR...
BTW, you can upgrade the battery to something like a 12 cell if you do plan to rely on it for portability. Most laptops don't stay on very long when CPU is stressed, that's where upgraded battery comes in.
* Check vents to make sure what you buy has proper cooling design if you are going the route of a better than average GPU, using HDMI, etc
* Overheating your computer, even temperatures within operating limits can kill components overtime especially if concentrated on certain parts of the motherboard where those components are (common cause of wifi adapter death probably)
* Do not overcharge your battery, let it charge, because it creates more heat, thus overheating your processor, even GPU, making it a lap toaster
* Find a laptop right for you, but read reviews on the components, not just the model of laptop itself! The components are usually used elsewhere!
* AMD processors runs hotter than Intel. Intel is better on the battery, but more expensive
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10-27-2010, 10:38 AM
Have been a PC user for 15 years and a Mac user for almost 6 years. My opinion stands clear - Once you use a Mac, you never look back
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