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Trasto · 04:37 PM

Finally the final. And in time. This is my sea dragon, complete with some field notes. I have included the bone study, hope It's not outside the requirements.

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It resembles the initial example by Todd Lockwood, I know it, but I really liked the idea of a plate from an old textbook. And given that both are dragons, I have always had a very different idea of how to articulate the front limbs and the wings in a dragon than his. Looking at it in a detached way, I feel that Todd's dragon is more functional, having bigger flight muscles that insert in the sternum. Mine are different, with origin in the coracoid bone and spine of the scapula. Those are smaller, nearer areas of insertion, resulting in weaker muscles, but I like the humped outline they give to the animal. And, as you all know, dragons (and jet airliners) fly mainly because of magic, but magic, being higly symbolic, requires an apparently functional structure to work.

The references come next. The first is an example plate from and old zoology text, found somewhere in the internet and stored -with lots of other junk- in my HDD. The others are a few of my compared anatomy books. I mainly used schematics for skeletons and muscles of a seal, a chicken, a bat and a crocodile. I post this photos as I am not sure if it is correct to post scans of the books, because of copyrights. I feel they are a way to convey the reference without infraction, but if this is not according to CGHub rules, please tell me and I will quickly retire them.

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alola · 07-22-2011, 06:52 PM

I Know iam very late but i will try this quick sketch

but i know i won't make in time

AdanVC · 07-22-2011, 06:57 PM

Fantastic entries guys!, Trasto: just WOW!

Trasto · 07-22-2011, 09:39 PM

@John Silva: I have a small problem. I'm going to be offline from saturday afternoon or so (GMT hour) until more or less the end of monday, (25th of july). I don't know if this poses a problem to presenting the final image. If so, could it be helped some way? Thanks in advance.

JohnSilva · 07-22-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trasto

@John Silva: I have a small problem. I'm going to be offline from saturday afternoon or so (GMT hour) until more or less the end of monday, (25th of july). I don't know if this poses a problem to presenting the final image. If so, could it be helped some way? Thanks in advance.

Before you go out, post the final here (if you enhanced it), i'll post it up on the finals for you, btw that sea dragon... amazing job! seriously!!

Keep them coming guys, i know the deadline is up but there's still time!!!

keep up the awesome work and see you in the finals,

~John Silva

alola · 07-23-2011, 12:26 AM

I hope it accepted as a final

Smirtouille · 07-23-2011, 07:45 AM

My final.

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And refs. <3
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Trasto · 07-23-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnSilva

Before you go out, post the final here (if you enhanced it), i'll post it up on the finals for you, btw that sea dragon... amazing job! seriously!!

Keep them coming guys, i know the deadline is up but there's still time!!!

keep up the awesome work and see you in the finals,

~John Silva

No, I won't have time to change anything. Thanks a lot for your help -and compliment- if I'm back in time I'll try to post it myself, but I don't know if that will be possible.

It has been a really interesting challenge, and a good occasion to revise compared anatomy, wich always is a good thing. See you all in the finals!

yongs · 07-23-2011, 09:02 AM

Awesome stuff you guys have here!
Don't know if mine is on time, but here it is.
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and my reference pics
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JohnSilva · 07-23-2011, 12:44 PM

Smirtouille, Yes that's good enough, its frickin awesome!

alola, You forgot to build the muscles and show your reference (which i mentioned in the description of the jam and several times throughout the challange) you still have today left to complete it! otherwise i can't let you go in the finals

yongs, Yeah that's really nice too! i just think the wings are a bit too small/weak since the body of the hipogriff has heavy muscles, if you could extend the wings abit more it would look more balievable, in my opinion

alola · 07-23-2011, 07:19 PM

here is My reference

yongs · 07-24-2011, 12:21 PM

@JohnSilva yea i agree! i only just found out how small those muscles are after referencing and drawing them haha. thx for the comments!

Trasto · 07-28-2011, 02:32 PM

Excuse me for the question, but is there going to be a finals thread? Or is it going to be in a different forum? Thanks in advance.

JohnSilva · 07-30-2011, 06:07 AM

Friends, very very sorry it took me so much time to get back to you guys, I've been literally buried with work.

Please move to the FINALS thread, there will be explaining what you will need and post.

Literally each one of you did an awesome job, very creative!

See you on the next round!

~John Silva

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Trasto Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16 Junior Member My Mood: Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Sea Dragon... Final? 07-22-2011, 04:33 PM Finally the final. And in time. This is my sea dragon, complete with some field notes. I have included the bone study, hope It's not outside the requirements. It resembles the initial example by Todd Lockwood, I know it, but I really liked the idea of a plate from an old textbook. And given that both are dragons, I have always had a very different idea of how to articulate the front limbs and the wings in a dragon than his. Looking at it in a detached way, I feel that Todd's dragon is more functional, having bigger flight muscles that insert in the sternum. Mine are different, with origin in the coracoid bone and spine of the scapula. Those are smaller, nearer areas of insertion, resulting in weaker muscles, but I like the humped outline they give to the animal. And, as you all know, dragons (and jet airliners) fly mainly because of magic, but magic, being higly symbolic, requires an apparently functional structure to work. The references come next. The first is an example plate from and old zoology text, found somewhere in the internet and stored -with lots of other junk- in my HDD. The others are a few of my compared anatomy books. I mainly used schematics for skeletons and muscles of a seal, a chicken, a bat and a crocodile. I post this photos as I am not sure if it is correct to post scans of the books, because of copyrights. I feel they are a way to convey the reference without infraction, but if this is not according to CGHub rules, please tell me and I will quickly retire them. Last edited by Trasto; 07-22-2011 at 04:37 PM.

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alola Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 68 Member Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	07-22-2011, 06:52 PM I Know iam very late but i will try this quick sketch but i know i won't make in time Attached Thumbnails

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Trasto Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16 Junior Member My Mood: Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	07-22-2011, 09:39 PM @John Silva: I have a small problem. I'm going to be offline from saturday afternoon or so (GMT hour) until more or less the end of monday, (25th of july). I don't know if this poses a problem to presenting the final image. If so, could it be helped some way? Thanks in advance.

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alola Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 68 Member Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	07-23-2011, 12:26 AM I hope it accepted as a final Attached Thumbnails

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Smirtouille Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 22 Member Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	07-23-2011, 07:45 AM My final. And refs. <3

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yongs Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 23 Member Thanks: 12 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	07-23-2011, 09:02 AM Awesome stuff you guys have here! Don't know if mine is on time, but here it is. and my reference pics __________________ ______________________ blog:yongsart.blogspot.com Instagram user: yongsart Sketchbook

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JohnSilva Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,053 Moderator My Mood: Thanks: 801 Thanked 424 Times in 353 Posts	07-23-2011, 12:44 PM Smirtouille, Yes that's good enough, its frickin awesome! alola, You forgot to build the muscles and show your reference (which i mentioned in the description of the jam and several times throughout the challange) you still have today left to complete it! otherwise i can't let you go in the finals yongs, Yeah that's really nice too! i just think the wings are a bit too small/weak since the body of the hipogriff has heavy muscles, if you could extend the wings abit more it would look more balievable, in my opinion __________________ -Twitter-Facebook JohnSilvaArt@gmail.com Portfolio cghub sketchbook Anatomicae Study Jams - Join us now!!

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alola Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 68 Member Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	07-23-2011, 07:19 PM here is My reference Attached Thumbnails

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yongs Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 23 Member Thanks: 12 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	07-24-2011, 12:21 PM @JohnSilva yea i agree! i only just found out how small those muscles are after referencing and drawing them haha. thx for the comments! __________________ ______________________ blog:yongsart.blogspot.com Instagram user: yongsart Sketchbook

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Trasto Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16 Junior Member My Mood: Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	07-28-2011, 02:32 PM Excuse me for the question, but is there going to be a finals thread? Or is it going to be in a different forum? Thanks in advance.

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JohnSilva Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,053 Moderator My Mood: Thanks: 801 Thanked 424 Times in 353 Posts	07-30-2011, 06:07 AM Friends, very very sorry it took me so much time to get back to you guys, I've been literally buried with work. Please move to the FINALS thread, there will be explaining what you will need and post. Literally each one of you did an awesome job, very creative! See you on the next round! ~John Silva __________________ -Twitter-Facebook JohnSilvaArt@gmail.com Portfolio cghub sketchbook Anatomicae Study Jams - Join us now!!